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Additional Brake Lights

Postby Lancer1993 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:04 pm

Not sure if I asked this here before, getting old.

Whats the rule on additional brake lights, eg F1 style lower centre brake light?

I want to install one on the plate I made to cover the hole left by my tow bar when its not in use.

I had some that double as reflectors on their before the trip but never wired them up.
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Re: Additional Brake Lights

Postby ReeceCozaa » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:59 pm

I don’t know law wise but I know plenty of cars have lower break lights, right under the plates
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Re: Additional Brake Lights

Postby Quismiff » Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:40 pm

I thinkthe ones you see on Toyota GT86 and Hyundai Velosters and the likes are fog lights. An extra brake light i don't think would be illegal, the amount of cars in my area with one tail light let alone a high stop not working is ridiculous. Cops could make a killing if they actually did some Policing
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Re: Additional Brake Lights

Postby ReeceCozaa » Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:57 pm

Oh
That makes more sense, hmmmm...
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Re: Additional Brake Lights

Postby Quismiff » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:21 am

From the NTC and ADR rules, the bit highlighted in red may fit what you're looking for Craig :)
https://www.pcc.gov.au/uniform/Australian%20Light%20Vehicle%20Standards%20Rules%202015%20-%203%20June%202016.pdf wrote:Australian Light Vehicle Standards Rules 2015
Part 7 Lights and reflectors
[r 94]
Current as at 3 June 2016 Page 72
Division 10 Brake lights
94 Fitting brake lights

(1) A brake light must be fitted to the rear of a vehicle built after
1934.
(2) A pair of brake lights must be fitted to the rear of:
(a) a motor vehicle built after 1959 that has 4 or more
wheels; and
(b) a motor trike built after 1959 that has 2 rear wheels; and
(c) a trailer built after June 1973.
(3) The centre of a brake light must be:
(a) at least 350 millimetres above ground level; and
(b) not over:
(i) 1.5 metres above ground level; or
(ii) if it is not practicable to fit the light lower —
2.1 metres above ground level.
(4) A vehicle may be fitted with 1 or more additional brake lights.
(5) The centre of an additional brake light must be at least
350 millimetres above ground level.

(6) If only 1 brake light is fitted to a vehicle, it must be fitted in the
centre or to the right of the centre of the vehicle’s rear.
(7) Subrule (6) applies to a motor bike with an attached sidecar as
if the sidecar were not attached.
(8) For the purposes of this rule, a light fitted to a vehicle that
functions as a brake light and a direction indicator light is taken
to be a brake light if the vehicle was built before 1 January
1973.
Australian Light Vehicle Standards Rules 2015
Part 7 Lights and reflectors
[r 95]
Current as at 3 June 2016 Page 73

Location of brake lights on a vehicle
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95 Performance and operation of brake lights
(1) When on, a brake light must show a red light visible 30 metres
from the rear of the vehicle.
(2) A brake light fitted to a street rod vehicle may incorporate a
blue lens not over 20 millimetres in diameter.
(3) A brake light fitted to a motor vehicle must come on, if it is not
already on, when:
(a) for a vehicle with 4 or more wheels or built after 1974 —
a service brake is applied; or
(b) for another vehicle — the rear wheel brake is applied.
(4) Subrule (3) does not apply if the controls in the vehicle that
start the engine are in a position that makes it impossible for
the engine to operate.
(5) A brake light on a trailer must come on when:
(a) the brake light of the towing vehicle comes on; or
(b) a brake control on the towing vehicle, which
independently activates the service brake on the trailer, is
operated.
(6) A brake light may be operated by an engine brake, retarder, or
similar device if the device does not interfere with the proper
operation of the brake light.
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Re: Additional Brake Lights

Postby Lancer1993 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:53 am

Might only be about 300mm off the ground?

I've sure the ones on the like of the 86 aren't 350mm off the ground, but might depend if they are fog, tail or brake?
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Re: Additional Brake Lights

Postby lancerdarryl » Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:19 pm

Lancer1993 wrote:Might only be about 300mm off the ground?

I've sure the ones on the like of the 86 aren't 350mm off the ground, but might depend if they are fog, tail or brake?

It's a foglight on the Toyota. I think you'll be fairly safe to fit a light in the towbar hole.
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Re: Additional Brake Lights

Postby Lancer1993 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 6:34 pm

The plan is the have a plug, for easy removal when the tow hitch is needed.
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