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Postby Kyrus » Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:36 pm

i thought there was something about the car being the only car in the family as well?
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Postby RennieJames » Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:39 pm

Yer there is :

The only car reasonably available for you to drive is a high-powered (performance) vehicle and at least one of the following circumstances applies:

-it was owned by you on 30 June 2007 and is still owned by you
-it is owned or leased by a member of your immediate family
-it is in the possession of an immediate family member provided under an employment or salary package.

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Postby Syke » Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:59 pm

Seen a few ralliarts around here with P plate drivers. i have heard that the certificate of exemption is a bit of a joke and only really there to keep certain people happy. shoudnt be too hard to get one
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Postby denzza » Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:19 pm

RennieJames wrote:Yer there is : The only car reasonably available for you to drive is a high-powered (performance) vehicle and at least one of the following circumstances applies: -it was owned by you on 30 June 2007 and is still owned by you -it is owned or leased by a member of your immediate family -it is in the possession of an immediate family member provided under an employment or salary package.


So if its under my dads name, its legal ?
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Postby chunky9 » Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:27 pm

Only if "The only car reasonably available for you to drive is a high-powered (performance) vehicle" as well as being owned by your dad

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Postby denzza » Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:29 pm

what do you mean reasonably available ? Like as in my car broke down i needed my dads ? or
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Postby chunky9 » Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:47 pm

Yeah i guess that could qualify, or if its the only car in the family as said before

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Postby belle_tb_ES » Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:02 pm

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Postby Seffy » Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:03 pm

The exemption cert. can be loopholed like crazy..

I have a friend that drives a V8 ute and another that drives a V8 Soarer after they just got it exempted. Just gotta make up some reason that goes within the lines of what was pointed out above, and you're set. ;-;
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Postby lancerdarryl » Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:04 pm

Kiddies stop wondering about this by the time you go through the process in NSW you would be off your P plates anyway
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Postby ninjured » Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:13 pm

as simple answer yes.
ive read plently of P platers apply for exemption under the 125kw/t rule and get approved In QLD

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Postby Dire » Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:56 pm

A ralliart is not a high power vehicle... And a Soarer is not fast, they weigh heaps.

And I like how you need to apply to drive something like a 1.6T cruze, but its fine to drive an S2000, or a NA lotus or something.

There should just be a power-to-weight rule and then there could be a list of forbidden cars, like how there is with motorbikes.

And is it really just 'can't be turbocharged'? So supercharged doesn't matter? Because turbochargers are a subset of supercharging, not the other way around.

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Postby RennieJames » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:56 pm

Oh Im not getting a Ralliart or anything like that, I was just looking at the regulations for your P's/high-powered (performance) vehicle and just sort of thought I would ask to See if anyone on here applied for a exemption or knows if it is or not because personally I thought it might be possibility but yer looks like know one knows or have tried it before.

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Postby squala » Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:48 am

My understanding of exemptions is that they can be applied for if your car is turbo/supercharged for economy reasons, like the Golf TSI, Cruze iTi, etc. But really, this high-powered rule is absolute rubbish. Many P-platers still drive like they own the world, too overwhelmed to get a licence and thinking that he or she can do whatever he or she wants. Restricting them to cars with less power is hardly a solution. Proper training and discipline need to be employed to make them sensible drivers while they are still young. We have much to learn from Germany and Finland.
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