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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 10:14 pm
by efod3
Jason-VR wrote:Scott are you at fault at all? Do you want to drag every other car at the lights? Are you are car enthusiast or hoon? With maturity you hopefully will change your attitude. Hopefully before that happens you dont kill someone else on the road. Luckily for me you dont live in my state.
Jason, you jump very quickly from asking questions to making conclusions. Is Scott at fault? We don't know. Does he drag race at the lights? We don't know. And then bang... with maturity... Scott's 12? And...
Context is really difficult online, I ain't on anyone's side, but the history of Scott's issue should be taken into account when reading his posts on this. And right or wrong they've been worth reading.
Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 8:51 am
by el3ment
So what you really sayin... RA > Evo
Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 9:18 am
by BST50N
el3ment wrote:So what you really sayin... RA > Evo
Well the s-awc sounds like it does some great things, and I've been following an EVO X and seen it go through a 90 deg corner quite amazingly, but with this (however unlikely) risk of failure, I think I'm glad I don't have it!
Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 1:51 pm
by R4LLI4RT
i dont know im not making or passing judgement on anyone here all i can say is if you were driving straight and then u lost control then its probably bad luck with poor driving conditions, but if you were going into a corner and caused that much damage to your car then i can only assume black ice was on the road.
Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 2:18 pm
by scott_drake
Dude! Seriously now: i cant explain this shit any more simple
Road conditions: STRAIGHT, DRY, TRAVELING SPEED LIMIT, NO OTHER CONTRIBUTING FACTORS!
1.There was a mechanical failure while driving straight (shit breaks on cars, weather wear and tear or fault or abuse PERIOD!!!!)
2. The S-AWC ECU did NOT recognize it as a failure/broken part, the s-awc ecu recognized it as a VARIATION AND SENT THE CAR HAY WIRE! (THIS IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING INTO AND WHY DOESNT IT HAVE A "SAFE MODE")
3. Driver CORRECTIVE ACTIONS where CONFLICTING with S-AWC ECU vis-versa!
The IMPACT DAMAGE ON CAR IS NO MORE THAN 57-63km/h! INTO 2 SOLID OBJECTS. SPEED WAS NOT A FACTOR OF THIS CRASH!
If you cant understand the above then you should really learn to read and understand!
Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 2:28 pm
by scott_drake
oh and my insurance got denied not because of ANYTHING relating to the crash it self what so ever, it got denied for other various reasons that have nothing what so ever to do with the crash, i am smashing this in court bit by bit,
in the mean while i have a team working on my car to find why WHY THE HELL DID THE CAR BEHAVE LIKE IT DID DURING A FAILURE!!!
And black-art!
You have read beebles post propley,
ne of hes wires came loose while driving (TRACK, NO TRACK IT DOESNT MATTER THE CAR WAS IN MOTION PERIOD).....It was loose becuase of a brace rubbing on it, (AS I SAY AGAIN WHY DOESN'T THE CAR JUST GO INTO SAFE MODE?)
We are going to test a brand spanka evo 10 in controlled conditions and environment and start trying "VARIOUS TESTS" and see how the car behaves.......But first we need to find out the BRAKE DOWN OF THE S-AWC ECU and how it communicates with the main ECU....(and the reason to understand the brake down before we test it is so that we know WHAT TO EXPECT during a failure)
But dont worry im sure you already knew all of this about how a ECU brake down works
Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 2:45 pm
by R4LLI4RT
scoot tbh sounds a bit far fetched but i hope you prove me wrong.
would mean a massive recall world wide for mmc if ur theory is correct
Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 6:12 pm
by timmo91
Firstly, sorry to hear about your accident Scott.
Secondly, I'm glad to of seen this post as I have a new 2014 Evo X.
I will be keeping an eye on this post for sure!
Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 9:05 pm
by BST50N
Well as I said before we don't know as we weren't there - however you'd have to be pretty sure you were in the right if you were going to take it up in the courts, with all the associated costs etc. I mean if I was even a bit unsure if I was at fault I wouldn't push it, but that's just me.
Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 9:15 pm
by scott_drake
fearfulmaster1 wrote: then there is a lot of reverse engineering to be done....
thats what we are doing! first understand the brake down of the ecu and learn from it and know 110% what to expect, then purposely run "faults to confirm how it behaves"
well im not sure if they have spoken to mitshi designers, mabey they have im not too sure, but i know im doing my process which will be 110% correct and accurate facts that will stand in court!
They have a BRAND SPANKA with them to run these tests!
Could take years who knows?