Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:42 pm
Some mre info on fluids
Note that Motul obviously does not believe that a high viscosity is required for a DCT, and they specifically mention the Nissan GT-R's GR6 transmission in their data sheet:
http://www.opieoils....arbox-fluid.pdf
The Motul DCTF data sheet also lists essentially all of the car manufacturer's DCT fluid brands & model numbers.
PROPERTIES
Color Visual Amber
Density at 20°C (68°F) -----------ASTM1298 -----------0.845
Viscosity at 40°C (104°F) -------ASTM D445 --------33.8 mm2/s
Viscosity at 100°C (212°F) -----ASTM D445 ----------7.3 mm2/s
Viscosity Index ASTM ------------D2270 -----------------189
Flash Point --------------------------ASTM D92 ------------196°C / 385°F
Pour Point ---------------------------ASTM D97----------- -45°C / -49°F
Also the DCT fluid for all Ferrari's is Shell TF DCT-3, and it has similar viscosity to the Motul and Pentosin FFL-4 (same as BMW DCTF-1)
http://www.maionesrl...c/tf dct-f3.pdf
Property Unit Typical Value Method
Kinematic Viscosity at 100 °C mm2/s ---------------6.4 --------------------DIN 51 562-1
Kinematic Viscosity at 40 °C mm2/s ---------------29.5 --------------------DIN 51 562-1
Viscosity Index - -------------------------------------------175 ---------------------DIN ISO 2909
Dynamic Viscosity at -40 °C mPa s ---------------9500 --------------------ASTM D 2983
Density at 15 °C kg/m3 ---------------------------------------------849 ---------------------DIN 51757
Flash Point °C ----------------------------------------------215 ---------------------DIN EN ISO 2592
Pour Point °C----------------------------------------------- -48 ----------------------DIN ISO 3016
and Pentosin FFL-4
http://www.pentosin....ento_FFL4_2.pdf
Product Attributes
Appearance -----------------------------Amber & Clear
Density at 15°C ------------------------842 kg/m³
Density at 20°C ------------------------839 kg/m³
Kinematic Viscosity at 100°C ---------7 mm²/s
Kinematic Viscosity at 40°C -------34.7 mm²/s
Kinematic Viscosity at 20°C -------83.9 mm²/s
Viscosity Index -------------------------168
Dynamic Viscosity at -40°C-------- 7400 mPa*s
Pour Point------------------------------ -54°C/-65.2°F
Flash Point -----------------------------220°C/428°F
and Castrol Transmax Dual
http://www.pentosin....ento_FFL4_2.pdf
Product Attributes
Appearance -----------------------------Amber
Density at 15°C ------------------------837.6 kg/m³
Kinematic Viscosity at 100°C ---------7.2 mm²/s
Kinematic Viscosity at 40°C -------35.5 mm²/s
Viscosity Index -------------------------168
Pour Point------------------------------ -72°C
Flash Point -----------------------------220°C/428°F
http://www.dctfacts....A-Lubrizol.aspx
http://www.dctfacts....lubricants.aspx
Check out Motul from us with filter for around 300 Bucks.
I am also looking at Fuchs titan DCTF will let everyone now prices when i do
Note that Motul obviously does not believe that a high viscosity is required for a DCT, and they specifically mention the Nissan GT-R's GR6 transmission in their data sheet:
http://www.opieoils....arbox-fluid.pdf
The Motul DCTF data sheet also lists essentially all of the car manufacturer's DCT fluid brands & model numbers.
PROPERTIES
Color Visual Amber
Density at 20°C (68°F) -----------ASTM1298 -----------0.845
Viscosity at 40°C (104°F) -------ASTM D445 --------33.8 mm2/s
Viscosity at 100°C (212°F) -----ASTM D445 ----------7.3 mm2/s
Viscosity Index ASTM ------------D2270 -----------------189
Flash Point --------------------------ASTM D92 ------------196°C / 385°F
Pour Point ---------------------------ASTM D97----------- -45°C / -49°F
Also the DCT fluid for all Ferrari's is Shell TF DCT-3, and it has similar viscosity to the Motul and Pentosin FFL-4 (same as BMW DCTF-1)
http://www.maionesrl...c/tf dct-f3.pdf
Property Unit Typical Value Method
Kinematic Viscosity at 100 °C mm2/s ---------------6.4 --------------------DIN 51 562-1
Kinematic Viscosity at 40 °C mm2/s ---------------29.5 --------------------DIN 51 562-1
Viscosity Index - -------------------------------------------175 ---------------------DIN ISO 2909
Dynamic Viscosity at -40 °C mPa s ---------------9500 --------------------ASTM D 2983
Density at 15 °C kg/m3 ---------------------------------------------849 ---------------------DIN 51757
Flash Point °C ----------------------------------------------215 ---------------------DIN EN ISO 2592
Pour Point °C----------------------------------------------- -48 ----------------------DIN ISO 3016
and Pentosin FFL-4
http://www.pentosin....ento_FFL4_2.pdf
Product Attributes
Appearance -----------------------------Amber & Clear
Density at 15°C ------------------------842 kg/m³
Density at 20°C ------------------------839 kg/m³
Kinematic Viscosity at 100°C ---------7 mm²/s
Kinematic Viscosity at 40°C -------34.7 mm²/s
Kinematic Viscosity at 20°C -------83.9 mm²/s
Viscosity Index -------------------------168
Dynamic Viscosity at -40°C-------- 7400 mPa*s
Pour Point------------------------------ -54°C/-65.2°F
Flash Point -----------------------------220°C/428°F
and Castrol Transmax Dual
http://www.pentosin....ento_FFL4_2.pdf
Product Attributes
Appearance -----------------------------Amber
Density at 15°C ------------------------837.6 kg/m³
Kinematic Viscosity at 100°C ---------7.2 mm²/s
Kinematic Viscosity at 40°C -------35.5 mm²/s
Viscosity Index -------------------------168
Pour Point------------------------------ -72°C
Flash Point -----------------------------220°C/428°F
http://www.dctfacts....A-Lubrizol.aspx
http://www.dctfacts....lubricants.aspx
Check out Motul from us with filter for around 300 Bucks.
I am also looking at Fuchs titan DCTF will let everyone now prices when i do