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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:05 pm
by R4LLI4RT
interesting, so would you say the ford fluid is more durable?

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:57 am
by BST50N
R4LLI4RT wrote:interesting, so would you say the ford fluid is more durable?


I can't say from the info that I have now, or that I will collect if the Ford fluid is more durable. You'd have to do an extended friction test over time or something like that (I think its a 3 ball rotating friction setup) - but I don't have that kit. When the Diaqueen gets here it will be good to see which type is most similar. The info I'll provide is how similar the fluids are - people can then make their own judgement based on that.

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:14 am
by BST50N
Diaqueen and Martini in from Beeble! Stay tuned!

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:42 am
by R4LLI4RT
any diffrence visaully?

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:52 am
by BST50N
Results are in from FTIR testing only. Note this is only one test, and I will need to do the others to get confirmation. As it stands:

Diaqueen = Ford
Motul = LiquiMoly
Martini = HKS

This is only looking at the main functional groups, an their relative expression. This cant tell you anything directly about other properties. What it does say is that these pairs are VERY similar chemically. Motul, LiqiMoly, Martini and HKS are also quite similar to each other. Diaqueen and Ford appear to have some significant differences to the other 4. I'll get some graphs up later.

Thermal analysis has been a pain in the ass. The decomposition of the fluids is exothermic, as i expected, as the esters would be breaking down. Problem is its overloading the detector so I'm finding it difficult to get an accurate decomposition point. I'll need to work on this a bit.

Visually Ford and Diaqueen look the same. HKS is the same colour as ford and Diaqueen. The other three are varying shades of yellow-brown. Photo to come later.

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:01 am
by R4LLI4RT
this is really exciting, ive heard alot of ppl say that the ford stuff is very close to diaqueen.

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:58 pm
by poe_sniper
Wow...interesting. Martini could equal HKS. How much is Martini?

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:00 pm
by megatron
$169 for 5L

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:40 pm
by gman90
Hi all how does the ford stuff match up ??? Or are the results not back yet would be good if the ford stuff comes close to the diaqueen


Does any one have a stock of tc sst transmission filters.,, they sell ????
Gary? ???

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:41 pm
by BST50N
gman90 wrote:Hi all how does the ford stuff match up ??? Or are the results not back yet would be good if the ford stuff comes close to the diaqueen Does any one have a stock of tc sst transmission filters.,, they sell ???? Gary? ???


Hey Gary, the Ford and Diaqueen match pretty much exactly on the FTIR. Their viscosity is similar, but I don't have enough of the Ford fluid to get an accurate viscosity reading. Have you got anymore you can send? I need about the same amount again that you sent (1 more of the small containers).

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:17 pm
by poe_sniper
megatron wrote:$169 for 5L


That's a bit cheaper but not by much.

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:21 pm
by BST50N
See results in new thread fellas

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:34 pm
by gman90
Hi nic ok I will get more to you next week sorry I thought I had sent enough bummer !!!!!!!!! Gary

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:34 pm
by gman90
Hi nic ok I will get more to you next week sorry I thought I had sent enough bummer !!!!!!!!! Gary

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:34 pm
by gman90
Hi nic ok I will get more to you next week sorry I thought I had sent enough bummer !!!!!!!!! Gary