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Re: Mod ideas and tips
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:27 am
by sarusa
merlin wrote:For power mods, there are some significant gains to be had with the following:
1. 200 cell CAT. The stocker is the biggest restriction to the overall airflow.
2. RA snorkle. The stocker is weird and somewhat restrictive. The RA also does not have any resonator/damper feature.
3. Cosworth or TOG air filter. Actually the stock paper filter is not a bad unit.
4. Intake grill mod. This is the done by removing the grill in front of the snorkle intake. There are good threads on this hearabouts.
5. Merlin Tune. Some top end improvements, much stronger mid range and a lot better throttle response. Some fuel economy improvement too.
Use the stock airbox and suction pipe for best results with all these mods and you wont get defected.
Would cat back or 2.5 inch muffler make any difference?
Re: Mod ideas and tips
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:11 pm
by merlin
Well yes, some. But the mods I listed are the main factors.
In the exhaust system the CAT is the weakest point.
Re: Mod ideas and tips
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:46 pm
by sarusa
merlin wrote:For power mods, there are some significant gains to be had with the following:
1. 200 cell CAT. The stocker is the biggest restriction to the overall airflow.
2. RA snorkle. The stocker is weird and somewhat restrictive. The RA also does not have any resonator/damper feature.
3. Cosworth or TOG air filter. Actually the stock paper filter is not a bad unit.
4. Intake grill mod. This is the done by removing the grill in front of the snorkle intake. There are good threads on this hearabouts.
5. Merlin Tune. Some top end improvements, much stronger mid range and a lot better throttle response. Some fuel economy improvement too.
Use the stock airbox and suction pipe for best results with all these mods and you wont get defected.
Great breakdown of what can can be done. Thanks.
Will 200 cell Cat still be legal? ie:correct emission wise?
Re: Mod ideas and tips
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:30 pm
by merlin
I believe it is a legal product.
Re: Mod ideas and tips
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:00 am
by sarusa
Lol Note other than 200 cell cat: you make no other mention to exhaust. forgetting headers which I feel will only be done by a few.
what if any advantage is there, in for example, either 2.25 inch or 2.5 inch cat: back or axle back exhaust.
Re: Mod ideas and tips
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:40 am
by mikeo
has anyone got any recommendations on a 200 cell cat to fit into original exhaust?
Re: Mod ideas and tips
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:44 pm
by sarusa
[quote="domenico.garreffa"]Hey guys im new to this and I have had my es lancer for a year now i have done the usual rim mods but I think that it is time to step it up a bit but i have no clue where to start lol
Where did you get the daytime driving lights?
Re: Mod ideas and tips
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:03 pm
by domenico.garreffa
I got them as an extra when i first got the car from mitsubishi
Re: Mod ideas and tips
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:51 pm
by Ronan.Butler11
sarusa wrote:Lol Note other than 200 cell cat: you make no other mention to exhaust. forgetting headers which I feel will only be done by a few.
what if any advantage is there, in for example, either 2.25 inch or 2.5 inch cat: back or axle back exhaust.
figured to continue the thread rather than start new
^with the advantages, i already have a 2.5" axle back, will that have any further effect (positive and/or negative) if a 200 Cell Cat was installed?
Still learning the ropes with performance so bear with me hahaha
Re: Mod ideas and tips
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:20 am
by merlin
the stock CAT is the biggest restriction in the exhaust, regardless of the other components.
so yes doing the 200 cell CAT will help power across the board.
Perhaps I should mention that over the years I have been tuning the CJ I have seen some strange and less than perfect twin outlet mufflers.
Some are setup such that one side, generally the right side pipe has more negative pressure than positive pressure.
In other words it is sucking air into the muffler and the bulk of the actual exhaust is exiting from the left tip.
Holding a sheet of paper up to the exhaust tips at idle will give a good indication.
Re: Mod ideas and tips
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:31 am
by sarusa
merlin wrote:the stock CAT is the biggest restriction in the exhaust, regardless of the other components.
so yes doing the 200 cell CAT will help power across the board.
Perhaps I should mention that over the years I have been tuning the CJ I have seen some strange and less than perfect twin outlet mufflers.
Some are setup such that one side, generally the right side pipe has more negative pressure than positive pressure.
In other words it is sucking air into the muffler and the bulk of the actual exhaust is exiting from the left tip.
Holding a sheet of paper up to the exhaust tips at idle will give a good indication.
Wonder how that affects the XForce twin outlet Varex muffler?
Re: Mod ideas and tips
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 4:44 pm
by Ronan.Butler11
merlin wrote:the stock CAT is the biggest restriction in the exhaust, regardless of the other components.
so yes doing the 200 cell CAT will help power across the board.
Perhaps I should mention that over the years I have been tuning the CJ I have seen some strange and less than perfect twin outlet mufflers.
Some are setup such that one side, generally the right side pipe has more negative pressure than positive pressure.
In other words it is sucking air into the muffler and the bulk of the actual exhaust is exiting from the left tip.
Holding a sheet of paper up to the exhaust tips at idle will give a good indication.
i'm assuming that this could effect the potential gains, seeing as i'm not trying to push out every kW i can would this make a huge difference?
Again im a newbie to this to bear with me hahaha
Re: Mod ideas and tips
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:07 pm
by merlin
do the CAT upgrade if you are after every last kw on offer.
Re: Mod ideas and tips
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:08 pm
by Ronan.Butler11
Sweet, thanks for the help
Re: Mod ideas and tips
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:29 pm
by COO86L
Hey Merlin, look! Another Sportback!!
I'd love a new catback for my lancer but eh, lots of effort for minimal gains. I'll probably make a rear muffler delete at some stage instead.